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Lisa Olivera's avatar

Thank you, Vicki, for your generosity in asking these deeply beautiful questions and for your time and attention with my book. It means so much to me. I'm so very grateful, and am so glad to be connected with you ๐Ÿ’š๐ŸŒฟ

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Thanks to you too, Lisa. It was a pleasure and a privilege to be able to read your book and then get to ask you about it, and I know many people are going to benefit from your words ๐Ÿ’š

Don Boivin's avatar

An emphatic YES to this: โ€œIf I could go back and speak to her, Iโ€™d tell her she has an untouchable source of wholeness within her that I promise sheโ€™ll discover and feel again.โ€

I also found myself, while reading this interview, gaining a hint of an idea of how to change the focus slightly and begin writing through my own pain. Thank you both!

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Wonderful, Don. I look forward to reading what emerges ๐Ÿ˜Š

Linda Mclyman's avatar

Lisa I have read so many books on trauma and psychology. Your book stands out in many ways. I appreciate the way you incorporate your own personal narrative into your teachings. The book cover immediately caught my attention. The minute I started reading the sample of the book on Amazon I knew I wanted to buy the book. I had read your first book, Already Enough. Dr. Rick Hanson - whom I deeply respect - who wrote an endorsement for that book - was right about you. You have done the work needed to write your books. No flash. No oversell. Just honesty and integrity. Congratulations.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Well said Linda, I fully agree.

Lynda Marie's avatar

I have been on the inner work journey for so long that your words and book are rarified air. I recall a time when I was speaking to my therapist at age 25 (long before understanding how trauma fragments) and telling her that I felt like a giant jigsaw puzzle that was tossed onto the floor and how I felt overwhelmed and trying to figure out how to put the puzzle together (the parts). I love how you name that 14 YO and the wisdom and reflections you can give her. It's lovely to read a book from another beautiful human who has lived it. In our great world and in the times we are living together, these moments nourish our hearts and souls. We are less alone. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. /Bow

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

So beautifully said, Lynda, and I love your image of the Jigsaw puzzle. That's such a great description of what happens in trauma.

Dr. Dana Leigh Lyons, DTCM's avatar

What a beautiful conversation overflowing with wisdom, Lisa and Vicki. I love how you speak of a lifelong practice and a continual returning, including in moments that might seem so very small.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Thank you, Dana. It's such a helpful reminder isn't it, that it's never a done deal, but a practice we can keep circling back to.

Carole Urmy's avatar

I was very touched by Lisa's quiet courage to open up so candidly. I relate to much of what she wrote. Her loving approach to her wounded and abandoned little self and teen-ager is exactly how I talk to mine. I have deep respect for my younger selves surviving and I sense Lisa's book will support me enormously on my continued healing journey. I am 78 years old and still bringing my fractured selves into an inner family of wholeness. I attribute nature as an immense caretaker all along the way Thank you both for sharing the interview. It worked its magic. Carole

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

That is so wonderful to hear, Carole. I relate very much to this journey too, and my own relationship with my young, wounded parts is an ongoing work in progress, though gradually becoming more tender, loving, and accepting as time unfolds. Thank you so much for sharing some of your experience and I hope you love the book too.

Kaitlyn Elizabeth's avatar

I let out a little yelp when I saw this. So beautiful. I read this interview slowly. One question at a time. Letting it wash over and into me. ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿฅนโ™ฅ๏ธ

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

The best way to read Lisaโ€™s words. I plan to return to her book and re-read it slowly too ๐Ÿ’š

Mika's avatar

Awww love that some of my fav people on Substack are together for this piece!

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Aw, thank you for your kind words Mika ๐Ÿ’š

Ink and Light by Nat Hale's avatar

Thank you for this interview. It has made me excited to read the book. There is so much wisdom here

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

So much wisdom, Nat. Itโ€™s a beautiful book.

SusanMFC's avatar

Enjoyed reading this and will take a look at Lisaโ€™s book. Thank you.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

You wonโ€™t regret it, Susan, itโ€™s a beautiful read ๐Ÿ˜Š

Tammy's avatar

Thank you for sharing this. As I am still new to Substack, I am not acquainted with Lisa yet, but I want to be! I'm going to follow her and find her book.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

I highly recommend Lisaโ€™s writing, Tammy. It is a newsletter that really stands out to me amidst the sea of therapist-writers here on Substack.

Ruth's avatar

My heart smiled when your book arrived last week! Iโ€™m tending still. Thank you for your words that give us all permission to take our time with our grief and to deepen our understanding. Thanks for no quick fixes.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Itโ€™s such a relief, isnโ€™t it, to move away from the pressure for a quick fix ๐Ÿ’™

Ruth's avatar

Yes. Thank you for your interview.

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Thanks for reading, Ruth.

book inc's avatar

Thank you so much for sharing this conversation!

Dr Vicki Connop's avatar

Thank you so much for being here ๐Ÿ˜Š